New Immigrants - Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose.
(The more it changes, the more it’s the same thing.)

When I get a Forward that tries to represent The Truth and is nowhere near it, like this one called NEW IMMIGRANTS that has been circling the Internet since 2006... I can't help but debunk it through facts and maybe get one person, who is silly enough to believe these circulating bags of nonsense, to stop and maybe THINK for a change. thinkingblue

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/newimmigrants.asp

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I received a Forward entitled “New Immigrants”, composed by a, Rosemary Laponta. I looked it up on Snopes and found some interesting information about it. thinkingblue

My response to the New Immigrants forward: Hi {Friend}, Thanks for the forward but it is the same ole, same ole Bull Crapperoni, usually circulated by ignoramuses who wouldn't know a History Book From a Comic Book. Who also are inclined to be very intolerant of anyone different from their own TEABAG SELVES. Thanks, {Your Friend}

I like Ernie Lujan's sentiment and agree with it... TEAR DOWN THE STATUE OF LADY LIBERTY (That welcomes people from other lands) IF YOU BELIEVE WE NEED TO BUILD A FENCE (To keep people from other lands OUT!)... We are long overdue for a Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill but the Party of NO tells us IT'S NOT TIME... instead they encourage a fence to keep people from entering our country... As usual they make no sense at all. thinkingblue

 

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New Immigrants
From this site.  http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/newimmigrants.asp

 

Claim:   Letter to the editor accurately contrasts immigrants from different eras.

Status:   Mixture.

Example:   [Collected via e-mail, 2006]

New Immigrants

From: "David LaBonte"

My wife, Rosemary, wrote a wonderful letter to the editor of the OC Register which, of course, was not printed. So, I decided to "print" it myself by sending it out on the Internet. Pass it along if you feel so inclined.

Dave LaBonte



Written in response to a series of letters to the editor in the Orange County Register:

Dear Editor:

So many letter writers have based their arguments on how this land is made up of immigrants. Ernie Lujan for one, suggests we should tear down the Statute of Liberty because the people now in question aren't being treated the same as those who passed through Ellis Island and other ports of entry.

Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people like Mr. Lujan why today's American is not willing to accept this new kind of immigrant any longer.

Back in 1900 when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to the United States, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in New York and be documented. Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground. They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times. They made learning English a primary rule in their new; American households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.

They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture. Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labor laws to protect them. All they had were the skills and craftsmanship they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.

Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out. My father fought along side men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France and Japan. None of these 1st generation Americans ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from. They were Americans fighting Hilter, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan.

They were defending the United States of America as one people. When we liberated France, no one in those villages were looking for the French-American or the German American or the Irish American. The people of France saw only Americans. And we carried one flag that represented one country. Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were. It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here.

These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an American. They stirred the melting pot into one red, white and blue bowl.

And here we are in 2006 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges. Only they want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes the entitlement card and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country. I'm sorry, that's not what being an American is all about.

I believe that the immigrants who landed on Ellis Island in the early 1900s deserve better than that for all the toil, hard work and sacrifice in raising future generations to create a land that has become a beacon for those legally searching for a better life. I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags.

And for that suggestion about taking down the Statute of Liberty, it happens to mean a lot to the citizens who are voting on the immigration bill. I wouldn't start talking about dismantling the United States just yet.

Rosemary LaBonte


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 Origins:   On 31 March 2006, the Orange County (California) Register published several letters to the editor dealing with the subject of the immigration debate. One of those letters, by a reader named Ernie Lujan, was published under a heading of "Tear down lady liberty" and read as follows:

HERE'S Ernie Lujan's letter to the editor: Illegal immigrants have been around since the early 1900's, except then they entered through Ellis Island in New York City. They came from countries such as Italy, Ireland, Germany, Poland and France. And now we accept them as true Americans.

Now these people whose ancestors came to this country to make a better life for themselves and their children want to build a great wall along the U.S. and Mexico border and deny these hard-working people the same rights that their ancestors fought so hard and died for.

If you build this wall then you must also...
tear down the great Statue of Liberty that sits in the New York Harbor.

 Apparently another Register reader penned a rebuttal to some of those immigration debate letters, one which was not published by the newspaper and has instead been "printed" by her husband through the expedient of forwarding it via e-mail (where it was circulated under the title of "New Immigrants").

Here's The Real Facts: This piece provides an apt illustration of the phenomenon that one can find in nearly every culture, in every era, a group of people who firmly believe that their civilization once experienced a golden age in which social conditions were much better
if not perfect... (The Tea Party people, all wear rose colored glasses. TB), and modern society is an increasingly worsening corruption of that arcadian past. The trend continues today, as we commonly see responses to social, political, or economic issues that attempt to contrast the present with earlier eras, to hearken back to times when such problems were significantly amerliorated or simply did not exist.

 Generally such reactions don't ring true, referring not to the way things really used to be, but to idealized, mythical visions of the past couched in absolute terms.

 So it is with this letter, (Rosemary LaBonte) which attempts to contrast the "modern immigrant" with immigrants of a century ago, finding the former sadly lacking by comparison. As usual, it references a black-and-white past that never existed. (another rose colored view by the Teabaggers. TB)

Yes, many of the immigrants who streamed through Ellis Island into the United States around the turn of the century worked hard, obeyed the laws, did their best to learn English (and otherwise become assimiliated into American culture), raised children who willingly took up arms to defend their adoptive country in times of crisis, and made their way in the world (and perhaps even prospered) with little or no help from the government or anyone outside their immediate families and circles of acquaintances. However, plenty of immigrants in that same era did
not fit that mold, such as those who:

 

What this piece illustrates is not so much substantive differences between "old immigrants" and "new immigrants," but rather the truthfulness of the proverb "Plus ca change, plus c'est la meme chose."

“The more it changes, the more it’s the same thing.”

Last updated:   26 July 2006

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